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knut 发表于 2011-3-12 14:33

【疑惑】关于费雯丽的血统问题,各种纠结

我知道这马上就可以算是一个老生常谈的问题了,但是我还是很疑惑,看过一些中文的费雯丽传记,很多是回避了这个问题的,但是在一本英文生平介绍里有这样的文字
“Her[color=Blue] father[/color], Ernest Hartley, was born in [color=Blue]Yorkshire England [/color]in 1883, and had moved to India at the age of 22 in search of a career and adventure. He became involved with a brokerage firm, spent time racing horses, and acted in The Calcutta Dramatic Society. Vivien's [color=Magenta]mother[/color], Gertrude Yackjee, [color=Magenta]although from Irish descendants, was also born in Darjeeling India[/color], in 1888. Friends of the Hartleys said that Gertrude, with her dark hair, blue eyes, and peach-like skin (traits Vivien would inherit), was very beautiful in her youth, more so than Vivien. [color=Magenta]The Yackjee side of the family also had Armenian descendants which may have influenced Vivien's dark Eastern looks[/color].”

这个就是说,Vivien身上有英国,爱尔兰,亚美尼亚血统,可是为什么网上很多说法说她有英、爱、法国血统呢?难道是因为当初为了证明Vivien有多么适合斯嘉丽大家才以讹传讹的吗??可是亚美尼亚和法国也差太远了吧……一个在欧洲的东边,一个在西边,民族特征都差别蛮大的,怎么会就这么混了呢??

还有很多英文网站上有讨论费雯丽的血统,他们甚至提出了她没有爱尔兰血统,而有印度血统等等的说法
下面是一些讨论的原文
“Vivian Leigh’s mother [color=Red]was rumoured to be of Irish descent[/color], as her maiden name was ‘Yackjee’, which sounds pretty Irish. There’s also rumour’s of her mother’s side of the family [color=Red]having some Indian blood t[/color]oo.”

“Viven’s father was English and [color=Red]her mother Anglo-Indian[/color]. [color=Red]Viven’s mother was adopted by a family called Yackjee[/color], so [color=Red]no conclusions [/color]about her ancestry can be drawn from the surname she used”

“Yackjee is a[color=Red] Parsee [/color]name. [color=Red]The Parsees are Indians of Persian origin[/color]. A typical Parsee is Freddy Mercury of Queen”

“Vivien Leigh's mother, Gertrude Yackjee, seems to have been [color=Red]half Irish and half Armenian or Indian[/color].
A quick Google search shows that the name Yackjee usually appears with Christian/Western given names, is most often found in Bengal (the center of Armenian settlements in India was Calcutta), and is shown in passenger manifests of British ships going from Persia to India. Many of the [color=Red]Armenian [/color]"merchant princes" who settled in India were Armenians who had been exiled to Persia by Shah Abbas at the beginning of the 17th century.

So I think Vivien Leigh's mother was of [color=Red]Armenian [/color]ancestry, and the name Yackjee may be an Anglicization of the Armenian name "Khachig" which means "the cross." ”

“The researcher who wrote the article speculates that her ancestry may not have been Indian but [color=Red]Afghani”[/color]

我都快晕掉了,光里面出现的就有被误传是爱尔兰,很有可能是亚美尼亚,印度,印度人中的帕西人(帕西人来源于波斯),甚至出现了阿富汗,各种说法我的个神呐,离中国越来越近了

还有一个人好像有点接近真相,他说Vivien的妈妈是被收养的,所以她的姓氏不能说明民族,那么所有猜测都被否决,这可怎么办呢,头真的很大啊……

各位帮帮忙!!我知道这里深粉多,帮帮忙哈!


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olivivien 发表于 2011-3-12 19:30

已经把版务论坛那边的主题删了!

你真的很肯钻研…………

我觉得费雯的母亲年轻时的确有些印度LOOK,不反对关于印度混血一说。

费雯身上若真有1/4的东方血统,我也不会吃惊,她的美本来就是那种中西通吃的。

夏理 发表于 2011-3-13 11:30

呵呵……再误传下去估计韩国人要站出来争费雯了……

olivivien 发表于 2011-3-13 12:19

我还是去查一下手边的几本传记好了……

knut 发表于 2011-3-13 18:29

[quote]我还是去查一下手边的几本传记好了……
[size=2][color=#999999]olivivien 发表于 2011-3-13 12:19[/color] [url=http://www.olivivien.com/bbs/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=9110&ptid=539][img]http://www.olivivien.com/bbs/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url][/size][/quote]


我之前看了好多传记都刻意回避了这一点,不知道老大会有什么收获,期待呀!

knut 发表于 2011-3-13 18:30

[quote]呵呵……再误传下去估计韩国人要站出来争费雯了……
[size=2][color=#999999]夏理 发表于 2011-3-13 11:30[/color] [url=http://www.olivivien.com/bbs/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=9108&ptid=539][img]http://www.olivivien.com/bbs/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url][/size][/quote]


    哈哈哈,确实,估计过几天汉城大学某教授又要有惊人发现了,费雯丽系韩国后代

knut 发表于 2011-3-13 18:32

[quote]已经把版务论坛那边的主题删了!

你真的很肯钻研…………

我觉得费雯的母亲年轻时的确有些印度LOOK, ...
[size=2][color=#999999]olivivien 发表于 2011-3-12 19:30[/color] [url=http://www.olivivien.com/bbs/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=9098&ptid=539][img]http://www.olivivien.com/bbs/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url][/size][/quote]


    我也觉得她妈妈长得蛮印度雅利安人的。。。。

downs 发表于 2011-8-19 15:12

我是真心一直以为费雯有印度的血统。
她的美真的不是完全西方的感觉。

knut 发表于 2011-8-19 18:14

[quote]我是真心一直以为费雯有印度的血统。
她的美真的不是完全西方的感觉。
[size=2][color=#999999]downs 发表于 2011-8-19 15:12[/color] [url=http://www.olivivien.com/bbs/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=11911&ptid=539][img]http://www.olivivien.com/bbs/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url][/size][/quote]


    恩,因为看过她母亲的照片,觉得她母亲长得似乎真的很有印度白种人的特征

青泠 发表于 2011-12-9 18:40

前些日子去了大吉岭,想到相同的空间,和她隔了98年的时间,就觉得很奇妙。

knut 发表于 2012-1-3 15:54

我不会做图片,所以,贡献个别的给广大雯迷了
请教了专家,得出关于费雯丽血统的最新研究成果:

在基因上,费雯和印度基本木有关系。

专家是这样说的:
1、费雯丽的母亲是孤儿,因被Michael John Yackjee收养,而得到这个姓氏,其血统可能是爱尔兰人,从面相看,应当可以归入阿尔卑斯类型,也就是爱尔兰等凯尔特人的主要类型。
2、还是应当基本归入诺尔迪克类型(Nordic,就是北欧类型)

嗨皮钮也~~

olivivien 发表于 2012-1-3 15:59

明朗了!

英格兰和爱尔兰血统也是一直以来各种传记和纪录片里的主流说法,突然发现费雯跟斯嘉丽一样都有爱尔兰血统!

knut 发表于 2012-1-3 16:08

恩啊!
我想起了杜甫一句诗“况复秦兵耐苦战,被驱不异犬与鸡”
我只是想说,爱尔兰也是一个和秦人一样的民族,饥荒频繁,甚至由此产生经济学中的“Giffen Goods”,我想正是艰苦严酷的自然环境催生了爱尔兰人如同秦人一样“耐苦战”的特征,和书中描写过的,对土地的热爱!

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